"Palantir Technologies, the company founded by Alex Karp, Peter Thiel, and a handful of their associates, has courted controversy for its supporting role in the US military occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as its participation in the detention of “illegal” immigrants through their contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and in “predictive policing” law enforcement programs that disproportionately affect minority neighborhoods. Equally controversial, but perhaps lesser known, is Palantir’s long-standing and enduring ties to the CIA and intelligence community at large, which was intimately involved in the development of Palantir’s products that now run on the databases of governments and corporations around the world."
These people that have reached the Priest-class of Corporative masking seem to have a mask for every occasion in the world of convenience. Very interesting I have met these people in my travels at the top of the food chain and they barely can function without a dogma or pre-fixed training. Nothing more than well trained lap dogs that run big Corps.
Yes, but does it say Cain is burning in Hell for all eternity, or just that Abel is a better role model than Cain? Taking verses out of context is decidedly how you don’t read the Bible. That’s how the Pharisees tried to condemn Jesus himself. The point of the Bible is as a narrative. If you treat it only as a list of rules you’ll never understand it because the narrative has infinitely more elements than a list of rules ever can.
By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks.
And why would you open a line of thinking that “Cain may be burning in Hell” when I suggested no such thing. We all know that God placed a curse on Cain while also protecting him.
To go farther on the context:
Genesis 4:
10 And He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground. 11 So now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth.”
Sometimes, by offering a chapter & verse, readers are given a choice of self-review - in whatever depth of context they elect to take.
The entire context of my post was about Michelangelo painting Cain in Heaven with Abel, and C. S. Lewis discussing the idea of a murderer who’s not Cain going to Heaven. You are feigning ignorance here. Of course murder is bad and you shouldn’t murder people. Cain and Abel, however, seem to be largely intended to be read allegorically. I found out that later, the Bible says that whoever doesn’t look out for his brother is a murderer. So the reason God was more pleased with Abel’s sacrifice was probably also because Abel implicitly looked out for Cain, but Cain didn’t look out for Abel. I also read Cain and Abel were also an allegory for early civilization, Abel meant hunters and Cain meant farmers, and that’s why Cain went to build a city after he got the Mark of Cain. Maybe that also means hunters would give meat to the farmers, but the farmers wouldn’t give any grain to the hunters in early civilization. If they’re all largely allegorical figures, it makes sense that Cain would be in Heaven in Michelangelo’s painting along with Adam and Eve, since those are just stand-ins for prehistoric people and early civilization, and even if probably not everyone during those time periods went to Heaven, the people who did can be represented by Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel in Heaven.
I apologize for not seeing where you were using allegories. I generally prefer Biblical to extra-Biblical. In Genesis 3, God sets forth his first, repeating, blood/atonement action in redeeming Adam & Eve by covering them with the skin of an innocent animal. When Noah exits the Ark, he offers a blood sacrifice to God. So these patterns are there for us to read. There was no feigning ignorance here. In the KJV, the Bible says that Judas “repented himself,” but it also says that he was the “son of Perdition.” I have had people tell me that Christ was seen in India/Japan during the “missing years” (extra Biblical). Matthew says that, after coming out of Egypt, he dwelt in Nazareth. For Bible students, that should settle things. If I offended for pointing to the Bible passages re: Cain & Abel, no offense was intended. Phil
Is the same Peter T that owns Palantir and Pay pal?
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/12/investigative-series/palantirs-tiberius-race-and-the-public-health-panopticon/
"Palantir Technologies, the company founded by Alex Karp, Peter Thiel, and a handful of their associates, has courted controversy for its supporting role in the US military occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as its participation in the detention of “illegal” immigrants through their contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and in “predictive policing” law enforcement programs that disproportionately affect minority neighborhoods. Equally controversial, but perhaps lesser known, is Palantir’s long-standing and enduring ties to the CIA and intelligence community at large, which was intimately involved in the development of Palantir’s products that now run on the databases of governments and corporations around the world."
These people that have reached the Priest-class of Corporative masking seem to have a mask for every occasion in the world of convenience. Very interesting I have met these people in my travels at the top of the food chain and they barely can function without a dogma or pre-fixed training. Nothing more than well trained lap dogs that run big Corps.
Just my opinion whoopx!
https://x.com/chasbwalker/status/1550802877756706820
Hebrews 11:4
Yes, but does it say Cain is burning in Hell for all eternity, or just that Abel is a better role model than Cain? Taking verses out of context is decidedly how you don’t read the Bible. That’s how the Pharisees tried to condemn Jesus himself. The point of the Bible is as a narrative. If you treat it only as a list of rules you’ll never understand it because the narrative has infinitely more elements than a list of rules ever can.
The context is the Faith Hall of Fame Chapter 11
By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks.
And why would you open a line of thinking that “Cain may be burning in Hell” when I suggested no such thing. We all know that God placed a curse on Cain while also protecting him.
To go farther on the context:
Genesis 4:
10 And He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground. 11 So now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth.”
Sometimes, by offering a chapter & verse, readers are given a choice of self-review - in whatever depth of context they elect to take.
The entire context of my post was about Michelangelo painting Cain in Heaven with Abel, and C. S. Lewis discussing the idea of a murderer who’s not Cain going to Heaven. You are feigning ignorance here. Of course murder is bad and you shouldn’t murder people. Cain and Abel, however, seem to be largely intended to be read allegorically. I found out that later, the Bible says that whoever doesn’t look out for his brother is a murderer. So the reason God was more pleased with Abel’s sacrifice was probably also because Abel implicitly looked out for Cain, but Cain didn’t look out for Abel. I also read Cain and Abel were also an allegory for early civilization, Abel meant hunters and Cain meant farmers, and that’s why Cain went to build a city after he got the Mark of Cain. Maybe that also means hunters would give meat to the farmers, but the farmers wouldn’t give any grain to the hunters in early civilization. If they’re all largely allegorical figures, it makes sense that Cain would be in Heaven in Michelangelo’s painting along with Adam and Eve, since those are just stand-ins for prehistoric people and early civilization, and even if probably not everyone during those time periods went to Heaven, the people who did can be represented by Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel in Heaven.
I apologize for not seeing where you were using allegories. I generally prefer Biblical to extra-Biblical. In Genesis 3, God sets forth his first, repeating, blood/atonement action in redeeming Adam & Eve by covering them with the skin of an innocent animal. When Noah exits the Ark, he offers a blood sacrifice to God. So these patterns are there for us to read. There was no feigning ignorance here. In the KJV, the Bible says that Judas “repented himself,” but it also says that he was the “son of Perdition.” I have had people tell me that Christ was seen in India/Japan during the “missing years” (extra Biblical). Matthew says that, after coming out of Egypt, he dwelt in Nazareth. For Bible students, that should settle things. If I offended for pointing to the Bible passages re: Cain & Abel, no offense was intended. Phil